Dreipunktsignal

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Per Lind
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Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Per Lind »

Hallo, Alle!
Es gibts versuche eine 3-Punktsignal zum Herstellen, als Bausatz, evtl. auch mit Steuermodul.
Probe mit Dioden und Lichtleiter habe wir gemacht und vermutlich sollte das Signal mit Lichtleider gemacht werden.
Preise weiss Ich nicht genau aber ca 10-15,-€/Stück + Steuermodul.
Gibt es eine Intresse? Falls so, Wie viele?

-Per

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s bahner
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von s bahner »

Hallo Per,

bei dem Preis nehme ich 10 Stück vom Signal ohne Steuermodul.

Beste Grüße
s bahner (Ronald)
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Jan Ruppert »

Hallo Per,

kannst du bitte noch mal ein Bild reinstellen, wo das Signal näher zu erkennen ist...

Danke,

Gruß Jan
Per Lind
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Per Lind »

Leider nicht. Diese sind nur eine Prototyp und bin nicht bei mir.
Eine Bessere Bild kommt später.
-Per
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von choppernachladung »

Hallo Per

das Signal sieht schon echt Toll aus , und der Preis währe Unschlagbar !

ich Hätte da auch Interesse darann,
und noch eine Frage
was würde dann das Steuermodul voraussichtlich kosten ?

und braucht mann für jeds Signal eines extra ?

vg rené
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Per Lind »

Es ist nur im Entwicklungsstadium.
Ich will mit mehere Bilder und Info später Informieren.
-Per
Bo Andersson
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Bo Andersson »

TRACK WAY SIGNAL
I can translate my Swedish through Google translate, so please excuse the interpretation becomes.

I am in the testing stage by making this light rail signal with the help and information by Per Lind.
There are two types of signals.
Some pictures on the CAD file.
[IMG] http://i32.tinypic.com/b9go7t.jpg [/ IMG]

The idea is that the fiber optics are used, and then connected to a control module, this is not clear yet.
In this way, the signal kept to a reasonable scale accuracy
Signal Tablet thickness will be 2mm and confining light optics so this is not visible.

The data are processed, and will walk away with much more to the etching

Sincerely Bo
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von M.V. Wesstein »

Ich glaube, Sie wären besser dran mit kleinen SMD LED's anstatt Lichtleiter. Auf diese Weise wird das Licht viel heller (und dafür besser zu sehen) und der Modellbauer darf kein großes Loch in der Fußleiste bohren für der Montage und ein zusätzliches PCB unter dem Layout montieren. Der Nachteil ist, dass jede LED seinen eigenen Zimmerchen haben müss, aber das konnte auf dem dünnen PCB aufgebaut werden, die gleichzeitig als die Rückseite des Signals dienen kann.

Übersetzt ins Schwedisch von Google Translate, hoffentlich macht Sinn ...

(Deutsche Übersetzung gründsetzlich angepasst, da gab's wirklich zu viele Fehler... :roll: )
I think you'd be better off using small SMD led's instead. That way the light is much brighter (and therefor easier to see) and the modeler doesn't need a large hole in the baseboard and an additional PCB under the layout. The downside is that each led should have its own chamber, but that could be incorporated on the thin PCB that can double as the backside of the signal.

Translated to Swedish by Google Translate, hopefully this makes sense...
Jag tror att du skulle ha det bättre med hjälp av små SMD lysdioder istället. På så sätt ljuset är mycket ljusare (och därför lättare att se) och modeler behöver inte ett stort hål i botten och en ytterligare PCB enligt layouten. Nackdelen är att varje ledning bör ha sin egen kammare, men det skulle kunna ingå på den tunna PCB som kan fungera som baksidan av signalen.

Översatt till svenska av Google Translate, förhoppningsvis skall detta vettigt ...
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Bo Andersson »

Hey, it goes too good to translate, so it becomes understandable.

This idea, I was inside for other small signals around the railway, but played off the idea when this should be outsourced, for it to be possible.
This is not possible with smaller series, nor in Sweden to make it economically portable.

My idea is to produce an etched sign board as this is very difficult to get into a hobby.
Fiber optics (light guide), I have tried and this looks very good, with just the right glow and giving me a nice glow light (warm white)
I use only fiber optics where there is scope for a better alternative, to depart from the scale.
The advantage is that I do not get any signal that is independent of a lifetime, as it is with an LED or incandescent lamp, the signal with fiber optics will be immortalized.

The other signals I use surface-mounted LEDs with good results in the scales are in semi-zero.
You should see this as a tool to be able to get something in their backyard.
I build up all aspects of signal tables to do before I put in a production plant.
Everything from the smallest scales to zero half 1 / 87, I then present a proposal in the forums, I act in, to see if there is any response.
Send some links to the tests I have done in the railway signals in scale H0 and N scale, you get on that basis make their own assessment, the smallest signals in fiber optics, the larger the surface-mounted LEDs.
http://i36.tinypic.com/2lasqc7.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/34p182w.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/1y649v.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/rlc7jm.jpg

Then I spin so on. It all started when I presented the signals of my own train, and this was appreciated, so after the rest is history.

Sincerely Bo
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Bo Andersson »

This design will etching layout will look like.
There are two types of tram signal screen
http://sv.tinypic.com/r/9pt1dt/4
Is this any questions, before the files go away to etching, so I would be grateful for these requests.
This should be seen as a project that helps to facilitate the hobbyist as it is quite complicated to establish himself as a hobby.
Tone Cards are not yet, but processed, and will be presented as soon as I know more.

Please
Bo
Werner Jurkowski

Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Werner Jurkowski »

Hej Bo,

When looking at your drawings I notice that you’ll have problems with bending the tiny parts.The bending edges require grooves, otherwise you get the edges too rounded and not in the correct positions.

Also I would keep the front as an individual part because the holes are too close to the bending edges. When bending you would distort the fronts.

For a better fit I would connect all side strips individually to the signal‘s back. At the edges which join after bending or where the front part will be soldered or glued to the pre-formed signal box, I would do the backs of the parts smaller.

Hälsningar från Berlin
Werner
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Bo Andersson »

Hi Werner,

It is not clear that there will be vikkanter so that this screen can be folded in a simple manner.
Must go through some of etsaren and hooks so that the signals do not fall out of the etching.
idea is also to make these screens in 0.2mm nysilverplåt.
I have been using a higher magnification print and weight up to see if everything is correct.

Thanks for your feedback, is appreciated.

Best regards
Bo
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Bo Andersson »

Must add that I will build up both variants, and to provide them with the light guide optics.
The reason for this that I wish to assure me that this works.

Those of you who are following a presentation of the signal displays can be ordered after your interest via my email.
Orders are not binding.
But should rather be seen as this information, how many would be interested.
The price is not fixed, my ambition is to keep the prices of decent hobby level.

Best regards Bo
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Bo Andersson »

Interest.

When I find that interest is not especially large as I write this.
I have 33 weeks for me to determine if these spårvägssinaler should be included in the A3 sheet, possibly in very limited numbers.
When the site goes to the other signals that it is greater demand.

Best regards
Bo Andersson
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Re: Dreipunktsignal

Beitrag von Bo Andersson »

Tram Signal HO scale 1 / 87

With the recommendation and interest from Per Lind, so I have taken up these signals.
The signal is produced in two different looks, and consists of a signal that the body is 2.0mm deep, when it is folded.
Below etsarken.

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The signal in the demo is built with light guides 0.5mm, which is cured to increase the lens, and fitted with compression fitting in the screen.
In the image signal is not obsessed with the body upright.

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http://i56.tinypic.com/70gkfd.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/2rh9p4k.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/hrhnys.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/10nbayb.jpg
Sun visors are made of heat shrink tubing that is adapted to the utetsade holes.
The brightness is good, moderate intensity.

Best regards
Bo Andersson
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